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Putin and his propagandists are deluded 12:08 - Apr 27 with 2365 viewsReslovenSwan1

UK is begging up and so is Poland. Poles will never again live under the KGB poisoners.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-poland-became-the-fortress-of-europe/

Wise sage since Toshack era

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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 18:54 - Apr 27 with 775 viewsonehunglow

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 18:50 - Apr 27 by SullutaCreturned

I'm sorry, I wasn't clear enough, I didnt mean he wanted the USSR back per se just that he is empire building and his empire would include all those lands that used to be in the USSR.

I dont think he has ambitions to rebuild the empire of old, colonies in North America? No, I think he wants a buffer between Russia and the rest of Europe; another iron curtain that protects Russia like the old iron curta.in did


Is right.
Putin has never gotten over the break up of USSR and its enraptured countries .
This is fundamental to this argument

He wants them back

He wants USSR back

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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 19:15 - Apr 27 with 762 viewsDaPs166

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 18:33 - Apr 27 by controversial_jack

No, they didn't get mauled, they took casualties and made mistakes, just like every army in history has. They tied down tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops, so it wasn't a failure. They soon learned from this.

Their jets aren't being shot down, as the Ukraine has no real means to do so.

You are correct about their bases being well away from the frontline, as that is how war has changed. Any large formations of troops , equipment or ammo will be within the range of drones, artillery etc, so they have to be dispersed into smaller units etc. That is the problem that NATO would face. They could not bring their large formations forward, because they would be destroyed. Units of marines etc would be simply wiped out

Contrary to the main stream, Iranian missiles actually hit their targets, 5 hit one airbase alone. That airbase had the best air defences anywhere on the planet, supplied by the US. Iran used slow drones and missiles with dozens of bomblets to confuse the radar, then they sent over ballistic missiles, and they hit 2 air bases and an Intelligence HQ.They weren't even the best that Iran had. Think what Russia could do with their hypersonic ones.

Nato, and incidentally, Israel, now knows that Iran can hit them and any US base in the region anytime they want.If Iran can do this, Russia has far more and better equipment

The days of the US pushing other nations around has gone for ever. Russia isn't Iraq or Afghanistan and neither is Iran


You need to read something other than conspiracy theory websites. EMBARASSING.
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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 19:22 - Apr 27 with 743 viewsDr_Winston

We're probably at the point where if Putin tried his chances against Poland on its own he would get his arse handed to him. The Poles have had enough of being Europe's wartime crossroads. They've got a well trained, well funded armed forces and are in no mood to muck around.

The idea that Russia could take them on, alongside France, Germany, Sweden, Finland, The UK, Belgium, The US and others? Laughable. Even at the height of the Cold War the Soviets never considered it worth the risk, preferring to rattle the sabre occasionally in return for concessions that the West considered cheaper than going to war. Now? Not a chance.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 19:24 - Apr 27 with 740 viewscontroversial_jack

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 19:15 - Apr 27 by DaPs166

You need to read something other than conspiracy theory websites. EMBARASSING.


What's embarrassing is that you follow the mainstream narrative without question. You and others take the cardv the conjurer gives you every time. Didn't you learn from the Iraq/Afghan lies?
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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 19:37 - Apr 27 with 723 viewsonehunglow

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 19:24 - Apr 27 by controversial_jack

What's embarrassing is that you follow the mainstream narrative without question. You and others take the cardv the conjurer gives you every time. Didn't you learn from the Iraq/Afghan lies?


It’s nit embarrassment that yiu should feel but deep shame .
If you are genuine, and youmay be, then you are “ vile” to me ,as you support terror and that is what is stamped all over Russia.
If you are on a wind up,then fair enough, I’ve done it myself for years, but this is not the subject for doing so . It makes you look shameless and stupid, taking in what the filthiest country in the world tells you is the truth
Time to reflect son,it really is.

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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 09:11 - Apr 28 with 635 viewscontroversial_jack

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 19:37 - Apr 27 by onehunglow

It’s nit embarrassment that yiu should feel but deep shame .
If you are genuine, and youmay be, then you are “ vile” to me ,as you support terror and that is what is stamped all over Russia.
If you are on a wind up,then fair enough, I’ve done it myself for years, but this is not the subject for doing so . It makes you look shameless and stupid, taking in what the filthiest country in the world tells you is the truth
Time to reflect son,it really is.


It's not a wind up, it's actually happening.The Ukraine is losing and losing badly.The main stream has been lying to us just as they did over WMD. I have been saying this for ages.
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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 10:26 - Apr 28 with 610 viewsonehunglow

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 09:11 - Apr 28 by controversial_jack

It's not a wind up, it's actually happening.The Ukraine is losing and losing badly.The main stream has been lying to us just as they did over WMD. I have been saying this for ages.


In that case,I pray for your soul.
You stand condemned

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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 12:24 - Apr 28 with 587 viewsSullutaCreturned

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 09:11 - Apr 28 by controversial_jack

It's not a wind up, it's actually happening.The Ukraine is losing and losing badly.The main stream has been lying to us just as they did over WMD. I have been saying this for ages.


If Ukraine is losing so badly and has been for ages then why is it still standing?

Now this Iran thing, the drone attacks....have you ever heard of Iron Dome?

Question, while we can agree that MSM isn't exactly 100% honest, what makes you think these sources on the internet are? Many of them are proaganda mouthpieces for the ddgy governments you seem to think so highly of.

The MSM didn't lie about WMD by the way. They simply repeated what they were told by Tony Blair and his government. They may spin a story, they may omit some facts here and there but for the most part the MSM is far mre trustworthy than where you get your "information" from.

But then, you don't need to believe it, do you, it just has to be controversial so you can live up to your username.
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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 14:05 - Apr 28 with 568 viewsDaPs166

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 19:24 - Apr 27 by controversial_jack

What's embarrassing is that you follow the mainstream narrative without question. You and others take the cardv the conjurer gives you every time. Didn't you learn from the Iraq/Afghan lies?


You stated that NATO doesn’t have the resources to defeat Russia. You get proven wrong, then you move onto another stinking pile of shite to lie about.

Straw man after straw man gets knocked down, yet you will continually build another.

Logical fallacy Jack should be your new name.
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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 14:05 - Apr 28 with 566 viewscontroversial_jack

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 12:24 - Apr 28 by SullutaCreturned

If Ukraine is losing so badly and has been for ages then why is it still standing?

Now this Iran thing, the drone attacks....have you ever heard of Iron Dome?

Question, while we can agree that MSM isn't exactly 100% honest, what makes you think these sources on the internet are? Many of them are proaganda mouthpieces for the ddgy governments you seem to think so highly of.

The MSM didn't lie about WMD by the way. They simply repeated what they were told by Tony Blair and his government. They may spin a story, they may omit some facts here and there but for the most part the MSM is far mre trustworthy than where you get your "information" from.

But then, you don't need to believe it, do you, it just has to be controversial so you can live up to your username.


Why is the Ukraine still standing? The aim is to destroy the Ukranian military and not the country

The iron dome yes, and it didn't work. It was breached many times by Iranian ballistic missiles. Not even the best ones they had or even the hypersonic ones. Israel now knows any attack it makes on Iran will have consequences. The US also knows it's bases in the region can be destroyed anytime.

Iran played a blinder here, they proved a point without escalating any conflict. They are a potent nation now, but nothing compared to Russia

Israel has had a reality check and not before time
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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 14:10 - Apr 28 with 566 viewsDaPs166

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 09:11 - Apr 28 by controversial_jack

It's not a wind up, it's actually happening.The Ukraine is losing and losing badly.The main stream has been lying to us just as they did over WMD. I have been saying this for ages.


“Ukraine is losing and losing badly”

March 2022 the Russians invaded Ukraine.

It’s now April 2024 and the Russians controlled about 25% of Ukraine in March 2022. That dropped to around 15% in November 2022 and theyre currently controlling around 18% of Ukraine.

So this huge super power who would in your words destroy NATO, can’t take more than 18% of the country next door.

Sounds about right.
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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 14:12 - Apr 28 with 562 viewsDaPs166

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 14:05 - Apr 28 by controversial_jack

Why is the Ukraine still standing? The aim is to destroy the Ukranian military and not the country

The iron dome yes, and it didn't work. It was breached many times by Iranian ballistic missiles. Not even the best ones they had or even the hypersonic ones. Israel now knows any attack it makes on Iran will have consequences. The US also knows it's bases in the region can be destroyed anytime.

Iran played a blinder here, they proved a point without escalating any conflict. They are a potent nation now, but nothing compared to Russia

Israel has had a reality check and not before time


Iran look stupid too. Your takes on global politics are so bad they’re laughable.

Israel takes out Iranian generals. So Iran fires over 300 missiles and only 3/4 hit open ground in Israel. Yeah, they really showed them! 😅
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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 16:35 - Apr 28 with 529 viewscontroversial_jack

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 14:12 - Apr 28 by DaPs166

Iran look stupid too. Your takes on global politics are so bad they’re laughable.

Israel takes out Iranian generals. So Iran fires over 300 missiles and only 3/4 hit open ground in Israel. Yeah, they really showed them! 😅


Nope, 5 hit the most heavily defended air base on earth.The very best systems the Americans gave them. Some hit another air base too and an intelligence HQ.

They didn't fire 300 missiles, many were slow drones and missiles with lot's of bomblets - which is what we saw exploding in mid air on the video as a distraction to confuse the radar.This took place over 5 hours, so the defences had ample time to get their act together, but they still couldn't prevent the missiles getting through
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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 17:17 - Apr 28 with 517 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 16:35 - Apr 28 by controversial_jack

Nope, 5 hit the most heavily defended air base on earth.The very best systems the Americans gave them. Some hit another air base too and an intelligence HQ.

They didn't fire 300 missiles, many were slow drones and missiles with lot's of bomblets - which is what we saw exploding in mid air on the video as a distraction to confuse the radar.This took place over 5 hours, so the defences had ample time to get their act together, but they still couldn't prevent the missiles getting through


A 1.66% success rate in their missiles hitting their target even according to your usual biased figures.

Independent figures show only 1 missile hit their target even then it was a bit of empty ground with the airbase. A success rate of 0.33%.

Israel fired 1 missile which hit its target a 100 success rate.

Not sure what this has to do with Putin.

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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 18:18 - Apr 28 with 489 viewscontroversial_jack

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 17:17 - Apr 28 by felixstowe_jack

A 1.66% success rate in their missiles hitting their target even according to your usual biased figures.

Independent figures show only 1 missile hit their target even then it was a bit of empty ground with the airbase. A success rate of 0.33%.

Israel fired 1 missile which hit its target a 100 success rate.

Not sure what this has to do with Putin.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/04/15/israel-ballistic-missiles-iran

https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-admits-iranian-ballistic-missiles-133544742.ht
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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 19:23 - Apr 29 with 428 viewsbennytheblue

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 13:08 - Apr 27 by DaPs166

Russia has shown itself up for what it really is, a joke.

Their military capabilities are blown out of proportion. The amount of money going through the military and pocketed must be insane.

China is a paper tiger who haven’t had any sort of meaningful military engagement since the 70s.

NATO are in full control and that won’t change.


China’s economy is heavily reliant on European countries buying goods from it, if that were to change they would be in dire straits. Stuff would cost us more, but China would revert back to the poor country it once was. The yanks meanwhile have been chucking all their old weapon stock to Ukraine, they have far more sophisticated weapons in waiting, whilst just observing how the Russians handle the old stuff…..
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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 21:48 - Apr 29 with 373 viewscontroversial_jack

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 19:23 - Apr 29 by bennytheblue

China’s economy is heavily reliant on European countries buying goods from it, if that were to change they would be in dire straits. Stuff would cost us more, but China would revert back to the poor country it once was. The yanks meanwhile have been chucking all their old weapon stock to Ukraine, they have far more sophisticated weapons in waiting, whilst just observing how the Russians handle the old stuff…..


China makes loads of products for the USA market at low prices. The American corps are making a fortune from this and the consumers benefit too. Australia for example relies on China for trade. No country in the west is going to piss off Chinal

The yanks have been giving Ukraine top quality weapon systems. Himars was going to be a gamr changer, but it hasn't. The Russians have destroyed so
Many Abraham's vehicles they have had to be withdrawn
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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 01:10 - Apr 30 with 320 viewsRobbie

Sad to say The World is at at a pinch point , Russia/N.Korea /China axis on one front challenging Uncle Sam and NATO to a peeing contest , I can go furthest with mine , awful.

Chuck in the situation in The Middle East , Isreal , Palestine , Lebanon , as Private Frazier so often said , We"re doomed .
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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 08:25 - Apr 30 with 281 viewsBoundy

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 01:10 - Apr 30 by Robbie

Sad to say The World is at at a pinch point , Russia/N.Korea /China axis on one front challenging Uncle Sam and NATO to a peeing contest , I can go furthest with mine , awful.

Chuck in the situation in The Middle East , Isreal , Palestine , Lebanon , as Private Frazier so often said , We"re doomed .


Like developing a disease regardless of how much you look after yourself some things are out of our control .I was alive during the Cuban missile crisis although not fully understanding the consequences of what could happen along with the toing and froing between the US & USSR then the 70/80s with Reagan, Greenham Common and the threats from the Soviets and yet we're still here.
Maybe the threat of nuclear annihilation of both sides has so far worked and will continue to do so, one can hope.

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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 09:17 - Apr 30 with 259 viewsonehunglow

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 08:25 - Apr 30 by Boundy

Like developing a disease regardless of how much you look after yourself some things are out of our control .I was alive during the Cuban missile crisis although not fully understanding the consequences of what could happen along with the toing and froing between the US & USSR then the 70/80s with Reagan, Greenham Common and the threats from the Soviets and yet we're still here.
Maybe the threat of nuclear annihilation of both sides has so far worked and will continue to do so, one can hope.


Yep.in 62 I went home for lunch ( being a mummy’s boy) and remember her asking if we were all going to die because if Mr Kennedy and Mr Kruschov .
We didn’t

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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 09:33 - Apr 30 with 248 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 08:25 - Apr 30 by Boundy

Like developing a disease regardless of how much you look after yourself some things are out of our control .I was alive during the Cuban missile crisis although not fully understanding the consequences of what could happen along with the toing and froing between the US & USSR then the 70/80s with Reagan, Greenham Common and the threats from the Soviets and yet we're still here.
Maybe the threat of nuclear annihilation of both sides has so far worked and will continue to do so, one can hope.


Just finished watching the fallout series. Total nuclear annihilation doesn’t seem too bad. Wouldn’t mind at all being stuck in a vault with Ella Purnelll.

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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 09:42 - Apr 30 with 242 viewsonehunglow

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 09:33 - Apr 30 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Just finished watching the fallout series. Total nuclear annihilation doesn’t seem too bad. Wouldn’t mind at all being stuck in a vault with Ella Purnelll.


Always take the stairs.
Good for the heart ,mun.

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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 10:46 - Apr 30 with 224 viewsunion_jack

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 09:33 - Apr 30 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Just finished watching the fallout series. Total nuclear annihilation doesn’t seem too bad. Wouldn’t mind at all being stuck in a vault with Ella Purnelll.


Yuk!

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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 10:57 - Apr 30 with 218 viewsBoundy

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 10:46 - Apr 30 by union_jack

Yuk!


She has nice eyes

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Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 11:12 - Apr 30 with 204 viewsunion_jack

Putin and his propagandists are deluded on 10:57 - Apr 30 by Boundy

She has nice eyes


She just doesn’t do it for me.

Nor does Putin (bringing thread back on track)😁
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